Does God Exist? Debated by Rabbi David Wolpe, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris on
http://www.jewishtvnetwork.com
My introduction to this website and series of media shows, was by a friend after she and I discussed Trust in God and prayer. I of course do not have access to debate these people so I will give my answers and observations of those that were involved.
First I notice that the discussions revolve around faith, belief, feeling, emotions and psychological ideas. A very little Talmud and Misha are included. Those participating are a Rabbi of the Reform Movement and two atheist authors which have sold a number of books.
The Reform Rabbi Wolpe does not present the Writings of Moses, or personal understanding of GOD, nor any fact based defense or evidence.
Christopher Hitchens, it seems to me, does not actually hate GOD (he does not seem to know anything about GOD) he does hate RELIGION. Christian, Jewish, Islam, and all other religions because they are man made efforts to find comfort and reason.
Sam Harris, knows religious texts (at least partially, however he has not come away with an understanding of the text nor the reason for the text) and therefore attempts to use scientific ideas as his foundation or reason and thought. He states that facts are required for him to have faith; scientific laws are what he believes. Not this mumbo jumbo faith and feelings type of faith.
These are the impressions I receive from listening, watching and evaluating the responses of the debaters.
My responses:
Rather than directly addressing each point, I will tackle the question of “Does GOD Exist?” Then deal with science, faith and religion afterward.
YES, GOD(the GOD of Abraham, the GOD of Isaac, the GOD of Jacob) does exist. Without any question, based on what I have personally experienced in my life I can tell you –Absolutely GOD IS.
With that out of the way, I must tell you that the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) makes it clear that HE wants US to know HIM. The first way to know GOD is to observe the wonders and glory of GOD's creations including people. Another addition to this one should be that the Children of Judah(Jews) are still among us, when so many have attempted to remove them altogether from the earth. GOD promised this will not happen. For many people this will not be acceptable as evidence, so we move on to number two. GOD tells that which is to come before it happens so that “You will know that it was neither you nor the gods you pray too that did this thing. I the LORD have done this.”
The GOD of Israel has declared his test for other gods, and if you think you are a god, then you can take the challenge. However, as I know that there is only one GOD, I recommend that you just seek GOD and the wisdom to know HIM. Some of the test are below.
Don't want to try the test? May I suggest that you test GOD. Read the contract (Covenant) in Exodus (chapters 20 -23), do all that GOD has caused to be written there, accept the covenent as it is written. If you do this then see if the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob remains unknown to YOU. See if GOD ignores you or if you in this choice learn to SEE GOD's hand in your life. You will then be able to answer the question “Does GOD Exist?” do it not and you will still be able to answer that question when he reveals HIMSELF to the whole earth. Except then it will be too late to repent and be saved! Better hurry, it will not be long now!
Please take note –I have not mentioned any religion, no man made thing or man made process, neither have I told you to take it on FAITH or just believe. I know that GOD requires TRUST, and trust comes from experience not from faith. GOD tells us exactly what we are to do and what is required in the Writings of Moses also known as the First Five Books of the Old Testament or Written Torah. GOD made many declarations of what would happen according to our time line, most have happened and many happen now(the remaining Jews is one). The Prophecies by Moses and the other prophets in the Tanach (Old Testament) are given for us to know GOD and so that we can learn based upon the events that have taken place or are taking place today, almost daily the headlines in the news today confirm what was spoken of. However, those prophecies were written more than 3,000 years ago.
For those that believe that science disproves GOD, look closer at the evidence and what was removed by those that cannot accept GOD. There is a problem caused by the Granites of the earth. When we desire to date an object, we use a process that measures the uranium and lead in a sample to determine the age of a rock. The more lead and the less Uranium the older the sample, for we know the decay rate of uranium to lead. But, this only works if this has been constant since the beginning of time. Polonium-218, with a half-life of 3.05 minutes, emits an alpha particle to become lead-214, the evidence of this action creates a mark in granites of the earth. The problems are that if the Granites took years(at best speed) to cool then the evidence(mark) would have been destroyed during the lengthy cool period, for alpha particles cannot penetrate your skin so could not mark solid granite. Hence the 3.05 minutes existence of polonium-218 could not leave a mark to be found. --So something we can not explain happened, so the idea that the granites of the earth millions of years old can not be proved. Genesis Chapter 1 speak of the creation of the foundation rocks by GOD speaking them into existence. Genesis talks about six days of creation approximately 5991 years ago. Maybe we should reconsider what we have been told. For example: It took several modifications in theory before we knew that the earth was round.
By the way, science is not fact, it is theory. Science consists of theories, each of which is valid until a time when something proves the theory invalid. At which time the theory must be adjusted or replaced in order to explain the new results. There is much evidence that many are still unwilling concede, that science is not truth. And, yet it is held up as truth because science does NOT accept GOD, nor acknowledge that it does not know everything. This sounds like a religious fervor to me, how about you? Then those that have faith in science point out that science does not allow or need a god so there you have it –science has become a religion for many. Many of who accept on faith that it -science has the answers and scientist are the ministers expounding upon the good of the science.
Last observation: If GOD does not exist, why so much noise trying to prove that GOD does not exists. We not that Donald Duck is a cartoon character hence we waste no thoughts on attempting to prove that Donald Duck does not exist. GOD on the other hand requires massive amounts of time and energy to attempt to disprove GOD, with ZERO Success. In scientific terms, GOD must exist for science and atheist to fight against, or they are crazy –aren't they?
Isaiah 41:20) That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it. 21) Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your reasons, saith the King of Jacob. 22) Let them bring them forth, and declare unto us the things that shall happen; the former things, what are they? Declare ye, that we may consider, and know the end of them; or announce to us things to come. 23) Declare the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods; yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together. 24) Behold, ye are nothing, and your work a thing of naught; an abomination is he that chooseth you.
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Isaiah 42: 8) I am the LORD, that is My name; and My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images. 9) Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them.
*****
Isaiah 43:9) All the nations are gathered together, and the peoples are assembled; who among them can declare this, and announce to us former things? Let them bring their witnesses, that they may be justified; and let them hear, and say: 'It is truth.' 10) Ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me there was no God formed, neither shall any be after Me. 11) I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour. 12) I have declared, and I have saved, and I have announced, and there was no strange god among you; therefore ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, and I am God. 13) Yea, since the day was I am He, and there is none that can deliver out of My hand; I will work, and who can reverse it?
*****
Ezekiel 11:15) 'Son of man, as for thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel, all of them, concerning whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said: Get you far from the LORD! unto us is this land given for a possession; 16) therefore say: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Although I have removed them far off among the nations, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet have I been to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they are come; 17) therefore say: Thus saith the Lord GOD: I will even gather you from the peoples, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel. 18) And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence. 19) And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them a heart of flesh; 20) that they may walk in My statutes, and keep Mine ordinances, and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.
My name is Yaakov Jeffries, and I KNOW THAT GOD IS!
Any questions?
My introduction to this website and series of media shows, was by a friend after she and I discussed Trust in God and prayer. I of course do not have access to debate these people so I will give my answers and observations of those that were involved.
First I notice that the discussions revolve around faith, belief, feeling, emotions and psychological ideas. A very little Talmud and Misha are included. Those participating are a Rabbi of the Reform Movement and two atheist authors which have sold a number of books.
The Reform Rabbi Wolpe does not present the Writings of Moses, or personal understanding of GOD, nor any fact based defense or evidence.
Christopher Hitchens, it seems to me, does not actually hate GOD (he does not seem to know anything about GOD) he does hate RELIGION. Christian, Jewish, Islam, and all other religions because they are man made efforts to find comfort and reason.
Sam Harris, knows religious texts (at least partially, however he has not come away with an understanding of the text nor the reason for the text) and therefore attempts to use scientific ideas as his foundation or reason and thought. He states that facts are required for him to have faith; scientific laws are what he believes. Not this mumbo jumbo faith and feelings type of faith.
These are the impressions I receive from listening, watching and evaluating the responses of the debaters.
My responses:
Rather than directly addressing each point, I will tackle the question of “Does GOD Exist?” Then deal with science, faith and religion afterward.
YES, GOD(the GOD of Abraham, the GOD of Isaac, the GOD of Jacob) does exist. Without any question, based on what I have personally experienced in my life I can tell you –Absolutely GOD IS.
With that out of the way, I must tell you that the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) makes it clear that HE wants US to know HIM. The first way to know GOD is to observe the wonders and glory of GOD's creations including people. Another addition to this one should be that the Children of Judah(Jews) are still among us, when so many have attempted to remove them altogether from the earth. GOD promised this will not happen. For many people this will not be acceptable as evidence, so we move on to number two. GOD tells that which is to come before it happens so that “You will know that it was neither you nor the gods you pray too that did this thing. I the LORD have done this.”
The GOD of Israel has declared his test for other gods, and if you think you are a god, then you can take the challenge. However, as I know that there is only one GOD, I recommend that you just seek GOD and the wisdom to know HIM. Some of the test are below.
Don't want to try the test? May I suggest that you test GOD. Read the contract (Covenant) in Exodus (chapters 20 -23), do all that GOD has caused to be written there, accept the covenent as it is written. If you do this then see if the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob remains unknown to YOU. See if GOD ignores you or if you in this choice learn to SEE GOD's hand in your life. You will then be able to answer the question “Does GOD Exist?” do it not and you will still be able to answer that question when he reveals HIMSELF to the whole earth. Except then it will be too late to repent and be saved! Better hurry, it will not be long now!
Please take note –I have not mentioned any religion, no man made thing or man made process, neither have I told you to take it on FAITH or just believe. I know that GOD requires TRUST, and trust comes from experience not from faith. GOD tells us exactly what we are to do and what is required in the Writings of Moses also known as the First Five Books of the Old Testament or Written Torah. GOD made many declarations of what would happen according to our time line, most have happened and many happen now(the remaining Jews is one). The Prophecies by Moses and the other prophets in the Tanach (Old Testament) are given for us to know GOD and so that we can learn based upon the events that have taken place or are taking place today, almost daily the headlines in the news today confirm what was spoken of. However, those prophecies were written more than 3,000 years ago.
For those that believe that science disproves GOD, look closer at the evidence and what was removed by those that cannot accept GOD. There is a problem caused by the Granites of the earth. When we desire to date an object, we use a process that measures the uranium and lead in a sample to determine the age of a rock. The more lead and the less Uranium the older the sample, for we know the decay rate of uranium to lead. But, this only works if this has been constant since the beginning of time. Polonium-218, with a half-life of 3.05 minutes, emits an alpha particle to become lead-214, the evidence of this action creates a mark in granites of the earth. The problems are that if the Granites took years(at best speed) to cool then the evidence(mark) would have been destroyed during the lengthy cool period, for alpha particles cannot penetrate your skin so could not mark solid granite. Hence the 3.05 minutes existence of polonium-218 could not leave a mark to be found. --So something we can not explain happened, so the idea that the granites of the earth millions of years old can not be proved. Genesis Chapter 1 speak of the creation of the foundation rocks by GOD speaking them into existence. Genesis talks about six days of creation approximately 5991 years ago. Maybe we should reconsider what we have been told. For example: It took several modifications in theory before we knew that the earth was round.
By the way, science is not fact, it is theory. Science consists of theories, each of which is valid until a time when something proves the theory invalid. At which time the theory must be adjusted or replaced in order to explain the new results. There is much evidence that many are still unwilling concede, that science is not truth. And, yet it is held up as truth because science does NOT accept GOD, nor acknowledge that it does not know everything. This sounds like a religious fervor to me, how about you? Then those that have faith in science point out that science does not allow or need a god so there you have it –science has become a religion for many. Many of who accept on faith that it -science has the answers and scientist are the ministers expounding upon the good of the science.
Last observation: If GOD does not exist, why so much noise trying to prove that GOD does not exists. We not that Donald Duck is a cartoon character hence we waste no thoughts on attempting to prove that Donald Duck does not exist. GOD on the other hand requires massive amounts of time and energy to attempt to disprove GOD, with ZERO Success. In scientific terms, GOD must exist for science and atheist to fight against, or they are crazy –aren't they?
Isaiah 41:20) That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it. 21) Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your reasons, saith the King of Jacob. 22) Let them bring them forth, and declare unto us the things that shall happen; the former things, what are they? Declare ye, that we may consider, and know the end of them; or announce to us things to come. 23) Declare the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods; yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together. 24) Behold, ye are nothing, and your work a thing of naught; an abomination is he that chooseth you.
*****
Isaiah 42: 8) I am the LORD, that is My name; and My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images. 9) Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them.
*****
Isaiah 43:9) All the nations are gathered together, and the peoples are assembled; who among them can declare this, and announce to us former things? Let them bring their witnesses, that they may be justified; and let them hear, and say: 'It is truth.' 10) Ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, and My servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me there was no God formed, neither shall any be after Me. 11) I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour. 12) I have declared, and I have saved, and I have announced, and there was no strange god among you; therefore ye are My witnesses, saith the LORD, and I am God. 13) Yea, since the day was I am He, and there is none that can deliver out of My hand; I will work, and who can reverse it?
*****
Ezekiel 11:15) 'Son of man, as for thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel, all of them, concerning whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said: Get you far from the LORD! unto us is this land given for a possession; 16) therefore say: Thus saith the Lord GOD: Although I have removed them far off among the nations, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet have I been to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they are come; 17) therefore say: Thus saith the Lord GOD: I will even gather you from the peoples, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel. 18) And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence. 19) And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them a heart of flesh; 20) that they may walk in My statutes, and keep Mine ordinances, and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God.
My name is Yaakov Jeffries, and I KNOW THAT GOD IS!
Any questions?
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